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what's up everybody

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as you can see we have

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nuap secrecy december 17th

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we got ross goldhart john ramirez jay

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king stephen bassett

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baptiste friscort

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linda thompson calling all beings

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christopher sharp quantum witch benji

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boyd

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benji boy

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christian thompson unidentified

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celebrity review

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uap media graeme rendell

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we will be you representing france

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and our wonderful co-host penny adams

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from disclosure team

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and i wanted to quick say why i

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i want to end uap secrecy for

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i didn't know what to make of it

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i want to end uab secrecy

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because the possibility of our world be

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being something more than we know

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is a thought

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that not only we need

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to be reality

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and until we end uap secrecy

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the handcuffs of life and the monotonous

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of the routine

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it won't stop it won't end

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so it's more than just knowing if

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there's

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aliens or if

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i've seen a flying saucer it's

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about life

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it's about the beauty

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most of all it's about each other it's

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about humanity

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and we can handle it

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hopefully you like that

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um

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poster just made it so we have a lot of

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all set up

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to do this and uap secrecy event there's

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some people that i wanted to

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you know hopefully participate like uh

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lou elizondo and

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sean cahill and others but uh they're

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but

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we have a wonderful list of people and i

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have a feeling i'm not done adding to it

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either

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you know i'm meeting new people every

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so and i'm not opposed to bringing new

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people into the event either as i

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organize it um i would like to have as

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many people take part they really want

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to take part

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whatever um i'm down with that so this

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isn't like a reserved show for a cool

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kids club this is

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you know where people come together

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for one cause

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you know and it's ending uap secrecy

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what the deal is i mean there's been 70

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got to know something

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um whether it's aliens from another

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whether it's interdimensional beings

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uh be open-minded about what it reveals

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gonna be good enough i don't know but

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i'm doing what i can and a lot of other

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sending emails they're making calls

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they're sending tweets and if anything i

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think it's just so beautiful to see that

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everybody is chipping in

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um to do something

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um feel empowered um by the care and the

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amount of effort that people are putting

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because it's been long enough you know

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you just think of of of all the people

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who who spent their life doing this kind

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um zach on the show the other day said

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he was telling the story about how his

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mother passed away and never got

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so that we can stop wasting time know

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france that are involved including

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beings christopher sharp quantum which

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bingey boy christian thompson um

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unidentified celebrity review the

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media with at least graeme rendell and

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so i'm looking very much forward to that

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very much forward to it

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that's going to be a great event and i

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hope you guys all hang out

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i do have some interesting documents

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that i will show you today i thought

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they were pretty cool to be quite honest

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as i get them

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we can all just think about how cool

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it's going to be

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the end uap secrecy

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conviction too and that uap secrecy you

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like john ramirez when he talked to him

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why he's helping out and why he's doing

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ross cole hard everybody does you know

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vinnie i can't wait either bro

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let me see what's up to everybody

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bricktop spaghetti lee

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uh awesome

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what's up dawg

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lara what's up daniel christensen megan

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uh jason uh faye who else we got

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who else we got robert gofford what's

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happening buddy

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awesome to see you as always

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um lord bass what's happening

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i don't know your name always confuses

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i want to get it spelled right for the

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poster you know

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i can always remake it so

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specialty advanced computers at los

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alamos labs i know quite a bit about

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what happened at that place

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that's for sure

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appreciate you guys

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let's see what we got

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first one we're gonna start with a

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uh dope knows what's up i'm sorry to

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hear your funeral man

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it is a synopsis

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henry ragner company from a anatomy of a

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isn't it interesting to see how it

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interesting is it not

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this is pretty interesting

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reporting invested and this is all by

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the way i should probably tell you what

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where this is coming from right this is

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all coming from this right here the

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library of congress legislative

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science policy research division so

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that's where this is coming from

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that is not really a part of this but i

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so and these are just the highlights in

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it i'll upload this bad boy to google

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drive if you want to look at the whole

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you just let me know if i don't hear

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anything then i'm probably forgetting i

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don't do it so

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reporting investigating and

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analyzing it ufo sightings interesting

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first report news media private

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branch red patterson air force base

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also goes to the public interesting

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so they kind of given you a breakdown of

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how things typically go

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not what they you know what they do or

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what the plan is or whatever just they

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this is on the attempts to create a

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flying saucer model an attempt to

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discern meaningful trends and patterns

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in ufo sightings

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was made by analla

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analyzing the descriptions of the

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physical appearance flight

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characteristics and other significant

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attributes of various

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uh classes of ufos

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uh

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the 434 objects cited identified as

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unknowns only 12 were described in

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enough detail that they could serve on

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the basis for the creation of a flying

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saucer model

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other you know what that means though

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other exciting data did however

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sometimes coincide with certain features

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of the reported ufos in these four

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categories these 12 sidings could be

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placed in four categories on the basis

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of their shapes

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shapes

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pretty interesting

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interesting

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look at that

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lighted windows

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very interesting

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again this is the library of congress

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here we go

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portholes

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and it continues

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again we're looking at this the library

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of congress legislative reference

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service facts about

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pretty interesting i would say

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public reaction to ufos for nearly two

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i don't know what that uh word is

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evinced

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a strong

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though cynical uh interest in ufos the

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reported presence of aerial phenomenon

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has held psychological significance for

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some

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quasi-scientific importance for others

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in a religious connotation for yet

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others in general there are two main

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groups of persons who study ufos

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ufologists serious scientific students

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of the exciting phenomenon now taking

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place in our heavens

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among such intellectually curious

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students are numbered today many

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outstanding aviators space scientists

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engineers radar experts college

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professors ministers high-ranking

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officers of the armed services and

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others

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contactees are saucerians

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many of these uh people purport to have

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made contact with those who they call

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the space people either by physical

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means or utilization of mysterious and

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mystical techniques which are never

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subject to objective uh scientific

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analysis or other kinds of demonstrable

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proof well that's not true

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dr carl young and the psychologist

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points out that despite the

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[Music]

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i don't know what that's going to say of

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observational data which has been

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accrued the physical reality of ufos

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remains a problematic matter

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the longer the uncertainty lasted the

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greater became the probability that the

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obviously complicated phenomena had an

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extremely important psychic component as

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[Music]

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interesting interesting

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this

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and you

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you guys may have seen this may not have

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but this is um before

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so this is basically

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you know yesterday if you were with us

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there were some changes in the documents

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they were talking about changes and

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where the ufo investigation was going to

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go and everything

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that also included the paperwork right

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um and

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you know names of stuff curtis lemay

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chief of staff on the bottom

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and we have

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afsc

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also known as ftd we'll prepare final

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report on each sighting after collection

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um then we have we'll forward a copy to

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the report to hq usaf

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so for reach searchers these are great

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acronyms to look into a f n i

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d

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looking into afcin

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up that's funny we said that at the

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exact same time

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pretty funny

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and then we have change to

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td

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e to t

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pretty interesting

404
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um

405
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so yeah

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daniel christensen's got a lot of

407
00:21:04,950 --> 00:21:01,760
interesting stuff he's talking about

408
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might as well get him on the show

409
00:21:08,950 --> 00:21:06,559
you know if you want to hop on and just

410
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tell everybody about all the intense

411
00:21:13,350 --> 00:21:10,159
things you're talking about you're more

412
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more than welcome to my sir my good

413
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while you think about it

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i'll take a look-see

415
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i believe

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um the other one

417
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other documents that is that i was going

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actually i think that might actually be

419
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the only one i was going to show and i

420
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just wanted to do an announcement

421
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of the nuap secrecy

422
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so that's

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what the deal is

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today

425
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unless somebody feels like joining me

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and talking

427
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otherwise that's kind of all i got

428
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i'll put

429
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the link down here in case you're

430
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feeling frisky

431
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but no pressure

432
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no pressure at all

433
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in the meantime while you guys think

434
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an interesting document we can look at

435
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because there is never a shortage

436
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of those

437
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in that right

438
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well let's we could stay on the

439
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we could always do that

440
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let me share the screen

441
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so

442
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we can look at these right now

443
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let me try to make it a little bit

444
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bigger there we are

445
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i love this too this is the photocopy of

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the original folder and everything

447
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so cool

448
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uh foreign technology division command

449
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section correspondence action folder

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interesting here

451
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so this one's about 36 pages

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congressional correspondence on ufos

453
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received

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and we have congressman carl vinson

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requires your personal attention

456
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oh here we go too we got remember we

457
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just saw the change to a-f-n-i-n

458
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there have been two congressional

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briefings on the program one in the

460
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summer of 58 and the other in the summer

461
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um during the summer 61 we were

462
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successful in preventing isn't that

463
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interesting how they talk we were

464
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successful in preventing a hearing by

465
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briefing mr richard p heinz a staff

466
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member of the house space and

467
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aeronautics committee on her method of

468
00:24:20,070 --> 00:24:17,360
handling the program

469
00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:20,080
um that mr hines visited wright

470
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patterson ftd together background

471
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information

472
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and as a result

473
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he didn't want hearings anymore

474
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i wonder what happened there

475
00:24:41,990 --> 00:24:39,750
um

476
00:24:43,750 --> 00:24:42,000
oh i'm sorry laura you're in some pain

477
00:24:45,830 --> 00:24:43,760
huh

478
00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:45,840
i'm sorry about that you feel better you

479
00:24:53,510 --> 00:24:50,950
you get some rest

480
00:25:00,710 --> 00:24:53,520
bioluminescence

481
00:25:03,510 --> 00:25:00,720
studies and whatnot on dtic defense

482
00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:03,520
technical information center

483
00:25:06,310 --> 00:25:05,440
pretty interesting pretty interesting

484
00:25:08,470 --> 00:25:06,320
stuff

485
00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:08,480
uh basically earlier this year an

486
00:25:15,190 --> 00:25:11,679
article of ufos was prepared for the

487
00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:15,200
encyclopedia britannica by dr heineck

488
00:25:18,549 --> 00:25:16,960
who has his hands and everything if you

489
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:18,559
haven't noticed

490
00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:20,320
which is very interesting and they're

491
00:25:28,789 --> 00:25:27,110
you know

492
00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:28,799
i don't know something fishy with

493
00:25:32,789 --> 00:25:30,320
heineck i haven't put my finger on it

494
00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:36,230
i haven't put my finger on it quite yet

495
00:25:42,230 --> 00:25:38,960
but there is something fishy with that

496
00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:42,240
with that person

497
00:25:50,310 --> 00:25:48,789
um

498
00:25:52,950 --> 00:25:50,320
cited the articles should be prepared

499
00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:52,960
bionic to prevent unnecessary publicity

500
00:25:57,990 --> 00:25:55,440
for ftd

501
00:26:00,230 --> 00:25:58,000
i mean if they're let's i mean basically

502
00:26:01,990 --> 00:26:00,240
if the air force is uh holding some

503
00:26:03,510 --> 00:26:02,000
secrecy together right and they're

504
00:26:05,830 --> 00:26:03,520
supporting a heineken they want heinek

505
00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:05,840
to stay they want to pay him more money

506
00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:08,240
basically is what we saw

507
00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:11,600
like what's up with that

508
00:26:15,590 --> 00:26:12,960
you know

509
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:18,789
see i don't know it's just interesting

510
00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:25,830
but it is interesting

511
00:26:30,789 --> 00:26:27,760
uh the background section of the folder

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contains letter ftd copies of the

513
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here we go

514
00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:40,230
the suspense

515
00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:52,950
this one's a little hard to read

516
00:26:58,070 --> 00:26:56,159
article appeared in the 5th of july 1961

517
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issue of newsweek stating the

518
00:27:00,950 --> 00:26:59,600
possibility of congressional

519
00:27:02,950 --> 00:27:00,960
investigation

520
00:27:05,110 --> 00:27:02,960
of the united states air force ufo

521
00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:05,120
program contact with the secretary of

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the air force legislative liaison

523
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revealed that there were no official

524
00:27:18,149 --> 00:27:15,279
information concerning such an

525
00:27:21,110 --> 00:27:19,909
unofficial sources have it that

526
00:27:22,230 --> 00:27:21,120
congressman

527
00:27:23,909 --> 00:27:22,240
carth

528
00:27:25,909 --> 00:27:23,919
minnesota

529
00:27:27,909 --> 00:27:25,919
of the house sciences and astronomics

530
00:27:29,350 --> 00:27:27,919
committee

531
00:27:31,350 --> 00:27:29,360
and another person would head the

532
00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:31,360
investigation team the investigation to

533
00:27:36,230 --> 00:27:33,520
be directed towards determining

534
00:27:38,470 --> 00:27:36,240
generally how the usaf is handling the

535
00:27:41,590 --> 00:27:38,480
program

536
00:27:46,389 --> 00:27:43,710
um

537
00:27:47,190 --> 00:27:46,399
s-a-f-l-l's present efforts are directed

538
00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:47,200
toward

539
00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:50,240
heading off the investigation or if it

540
00:27:59,350 --> 00:27:52,480
is to occur having it take place in

541
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:06,950
hmm

542
00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:08,470
these are pretty interesting documents

543
00:28:18,549 --> 00:28:14,470
um

544
00:28:20,230 --> 00:28:18,559
it is apparent

545
00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:20,240
uh the letter that major kehoe and

546
00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:22,559
others are attempting to force

547
00:28:26,950 --> 00:28:24,240
further congressional hearings on the

548
00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:26,960
ufo program it is my opinion that this

549
00:28:34,789 --> 00:28:29,120
rather long letter to mr vinson is

550
00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:36,230
these are in the folder i shared

551
00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:38,240
yesterday by the way

552
00:28:41,830 --> 00:28:40,559
for that show

553
00:28:45,029 --> 00:28:41,840
so

554
00:28:50,389 --> 00:28:45,039
you are more than welcome to read these

555
00:28:58,630 --> 00:28:53,430
they are in there

556
00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:00,950
better than ninety percent of the more

557
00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:04,000
oh we got a guest

558
00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:06,960
i can't see you though oh there you are

559
00:29:14,270 --> 00:29:13,029
oh i'll i'll kick you out until your

560
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:14,280
audio's working

561
00:29:19,669 --> 00:29:18,240
[Laughter]

562
00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:19,679
just give me like a high five or

563
00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:26,310
uh united states are more than 50

564
00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:32,950
5

565
00:29:45,669 --> 00:29:42,710
allegedly through his support to

566
00:29:47,430 --> 00:29:45,679
president kennedy

567
00:29:51,669 --> 00:29:47,440
wow

568
00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:52,830
you good to go

569
00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:54,960
bro no

570
00:29:57,909 --> 00:29:56,720
i'll check with you again how about now

571
00:29:59,590 --> 00:29:57,919
can you hear me

572
00:30:00,630 --> 00:29:59,600
oh yeah

573
00:30:02,389 --> 00:30:00,640
all right

574
00:30:03,909 --> 00:30:02,399
how you doing

575
00:30:05,110 --> 00:30:03,919
i'm great man

576
00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:05,120
good

577
00:30:11,590 --> 00:30:09,360
i like the new york yankee cab

578
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:11,600
what do you say sean i said i like the

579
00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:14,290
new york yankee cap

580
00:30:19,590 --> 00:30:17,440
[Laughter]

581
00:30:23,350 --> 00:30:19,600
it's it's more popular

582
00:30:25,269 --> 00:30:23,360
here in denmark in in the team

583
00:30:26,789 --> 00:30:25,279
yeah

584
00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:26,799
well you should start wearing milwaukee

585
00:30:29,669 --> 00:30:28,480
brewer stuff

586
00:30:31,269 --> 00:30:29,679
oh

587
00:30:34,149 --> 00:30:31,279
yeah

588
00:30:36,070 --> 00:30:34,159
well that's my team

589
00:30:37,510 --> 00:30:36,080
great

590
00:30:39,110 --> 00:30:37,520
i don't really watch that because the

591
00:30:41,830 --> 00:30:39,120
season's too long

592
00:30:43,430 --> 00:30:41,840
i was i was in

593
00:30:44,269 --> 00:30:43,440
in new york

594
00:30:46,149 --> 00:30:44,279
in

595
00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:46,159
2015.

596
00:30:48,630 --> 00:30:47,200
yeah

597
00:30:50,310 --> 00:30:48,640
so

598
00:30:52,470 --> 00:30:50,320
okay

599
00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:52,480
um yeah

600
00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:55,760
in denmark today there was a big news uh

601
00:31:01,110 --> 00:30:57,840
it was uh

602
00:31:02,870 --> 00:31:01,120
our defense minister came out and talked

603
00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:02,880
about ufos

604
00:31:06,470 --> 00:31:04,960
wow

605
00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:06,480
because

606
00:31:09,269 --> 00:31:08,080
she

607
00:31:12,310 --> 00:31:09,279
was

608
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:12,320
asked about it from

609
00:31:14,789 --> 00:31:13,210
a politician

610
00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:14,799
[Music]

611
00:31:21,029 --> 00:31:17,360
and she responded

612
00:31:21,990 --> 00:31:21,039
and it went all over the news

613
00:31:23,190 --> 00:31:22,000
so

614
00:31:24,070 --> 00:31:23,200
you know

615
00:31:27,669 --> 00:31:24,080
but

616
00:31:37,269 --> 00:31:32,710
that they hadn't had our ufo on radar

617
00:31:40,070 --> 00:31:38,870
in denver

618
00:31:41,269 --> 00:31:40,080
interesting

619
00:31:43,990 --> 00:31:41,279
yeah

620
00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:44,000
and um

621
00:31:47,909 --> 00:31:45,039
all the

622
00:31:50,389 --> 00:31:47,919
civilian cases are going to

623
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:53,750
private ufo group

624
00:31:58,830 --> 00:31:57,600
like mufon we have a

625
00:32:01,190 --> 00:31:58,840
move

626
00:32:02,950 --> 00:32:01,200
on based

627
00:32:04,230 --> 00:32:02,960
danish based

628
00:32:07,310 --> 00:32:04,240
group

629
00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:11,509
scandinavian ufo information

630
00:32:14,549 --> 00:32:12,720
interesting

631
00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:14,559
and

632
00:32:18,230 --> 00:32:17,279
how do you feel about that

633
00:32:22,389 --> 00:32:18,240
um

634
00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:22,399
i'm not glad about move on move on is

635
00:32:25,029 --> 00:32:23,279
has

636
00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:25,039
gone

637
00:32:27,269 --> 00:32:25,919
like

638
00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:27,279
mufon

639
00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:31,760
has gone in the u.s i believe that they

640
00:32:36,549 --> 00:32:35,200
have it like

641
00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:36,559
what do you say

642
00:32:40,870 --> 00:32:39,360
they're more skeptical

643
00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:40,880
yeah

644
00:32:47,509 --> 00:32:44,720
um i would say

645
00:32:49,269 --> 00:32:47,519
they seem to be kind of

646
00:32:51,509 --> 00:32:49,279
secretive as well

647
00:32:53,190 --> 00:32:51,519
yeah exactly

648
00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:53,200
and

649
00:32:58,789 --> 00:32:56,480
um

650
00:33:02,070 --> 00:32:58,799
so far here in denmark

651
00:33:04,149 --> 00:33:02,080
has had a long relationship with the air

652
00:33:08,230 --> 00:33:04,159
force

653
00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:08,240
um and in 2009 i believe

654
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:12,640
they got all the danish air force

655
00:33:17,669 --> 00:33:13,919
files

656
00:33:21,909 --> 00:33:20,389
it was only civilian

657
00:33:25,190 --> 00:33:21,919
or

658
00:33:31,669 --> 00:33:28,310
i know that i've seen some non-civilian

659
00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:34,870
yeah there is none civilian

660
00:33:39,029 --> 00:33:36,720
cases also

661
00:33:39,909 --> 00:33:39,039
um

662
00:33:41,509 --> 00:33:39,919
but

663
00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:41,519
again

664
00:33:47,430 --> 00:33:45,440
the the letter to the other

665
00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:47,440
members of parliament

666
00:33:50,870 --> 00:33:49,840
was saying that

667
00:33:56,070 --> 00:33:50,880
the

668
00:34:00,950 --> 00:33:59,029
hazard to treat

669
00:34:04,070 --> 00:34:00,960
air air traffic

670
00:34:08,389 --> 00:34:04,080
as a potential

671
00:34:10,149 --> 00:34:08,399
hazard of flight issues

672
00:34:13,990 --> 00:34:10,159
well yeah

673
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,270
of course

674
00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:19,510
that's like the number one issue i would

675
00:34:23,190 --> 00:34:21,520
say but well you know

676
00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:23,200
depending i guess you you could have

677
00:34:28,869 --> 00:34:24,960
like physiological and all that kind of

678
00:34:32,389 --> 00:34:28,879
stuff and yeah but but that were the the

679
00:34:34,629 --> 00:34:32,399
main concern from kevin day

680
00:34:37,669 --> 00:34:34,639
uh the the

681
00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:37,679
the flight safety issue

682
00:34:43,109 --> 00:34:40,720
it was not so much that there was

683
00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:43,119
tick ticks flying around

684
00:34:47,190 --> 00:34:44,960
he wasn't

685
00:34:48,389 --> 00:34:47,200
caring about that but

686
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:48,399
if they wouldn't

687
00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:56,470
yeah on the west coast then he didn't do

688
00:35:01,990 --> 00:34:59,040
his job

689
00:35:04,530 --> 00:35:02,000
i got something for you here um you like

690
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:04,540
denmark right

691
00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:06,960
[Laughter]

692
00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:08,320
yeah i don't know what it says though

693
00:35:12,870 --> 00:35:11,520
you're gonna have to read it so

694
00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:12,880
um

695
00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:13,920
but

696
00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:16,079
yes

697
00:35:21,829 --> 00:35:18,560
everything else i've found on this uh

698
00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:21,839
page has been pretty legit so

699
00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:23,040
we'll see

700
00:35:29,109 --> 00:35:25,920
let me bring it up here sean can you see

701
00:35:35,270 --> 00:35:32,790
oh yeah nice it's a little country

702
00:35:37,550 --> 00:35:35,280
man it's so small it's like

703
00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:37,560
a foot it's like a foot and a half

704
00:35:45,030 --> 00:35:42,240
[Laughter]

705
00:35:48,310 --> 00:35:45,040
smaller than

706
00:35:51,270 --> 00:35:48,320
i'm going to see a

707
00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:51,280
bd in in florida

708
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:52,960
oh really

709
00:35:59,589 --> 00:35:53,680
cool

710
00:36:02,630 --> 00:35:59,599
oh yeah this is the report that they got

711
00:36:04,069 --> 00:36:02,640
okay and i can see you got the files

712
00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:04,079
from the

713
00:36:09,670 --> 00:36:07,440
largest ufo um

714
00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:09,680
you got that right baby

715
00:36:13,990 --> 00:36:12,480
correlation in in sweden

716
00:36:21,510 --> 00:36:14,000
yeah

717
00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:21,520
they they they have a lot of stuff and

718
00:36:27,030 --> 00:36:25,440
this is uh what the the header is saying

719
00:36:29,910 --> 00:36:27,040
is uh

720
00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:29,920
a question form

721
00:36:35,430 --> 00:36:34,079
uh to use or military and civilian

722
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:35,440
gotcha

723
00:36:38,069 --> 00:36:36,480
and

724
00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:38,079
they

725
00:36:41,589 --> 00:36:40,400
if anybody calls in

726
00:36:43,190 --> 00:36:41,599
they will

727
00:36:46,310 --> 00:36:43,200
fill in

728
00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:46,320
yeah all this and you can see

729
00:36:50,310 --> 00:36:48,160
all the private

730
00:36:52,870 --> 00:36:50,320
name

731
00:36:59,109 --> 00:36:52,880
and so on is

732
00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:02,710
and uh we we had uh in this there's a

733
00:37:08,950 --> 00:37:06,160
drawing from uh a young boy

734
00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:08,960
where there is a ufo

735
00:37:12,870 --> 00:37:11,680
with aliens around it

736
00:37:14,630 --> 00:37:12,880
wow

737
00:37:15,510 --> 00:37:14,640
yeah

738
00:37:18,230 --> 00:37:15,520
and

739
00:37:20,390 --> 00:37:18,240
i believe it was in

740
00:37:21,589 --> 00:37:20,400
85

741
00:37:24,550 --> 00:37:21,599
oh wow

742
00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:24,560
he is sore and reported

743
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:26,480
wow that yeah that's a year after i was

744
00:37:33,190 --> 00:37:31,030
yeah so there's oh man there's a whole

745
00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:33,200
bunch of stuff in here okay this is one

746
00:37:34,630 --> 00:37:33,920
one

747
00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:34,640
um

748
00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:38,720
gotcha we we did some research and

749
00:37:45,349 --> 00:37:42,960
we believe there is uh a ton of or

750
00:37:48,150 --> 00:37:45,359
more files uh

751
00:37:51,990 --> 00:37:48,160
to be gained from the air force

752
00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:52,000
we believe they have about 40 pounds and

753
00:37:54,710 --> 00:37:53,520
wow

754
00:37:55,829 --> 00:37:54,720
so

755
00:37:57,750 --> 00:37:55,839
do you know

756
00:37:59,910 --> 00:37:57,760
like roughly the

757
00:38:01,990 --> 00:37:59,920
time frame of these

758
00:38:05,109 --> 00:38:02,000
i'd say 80s

759
00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:05,119
80s that's so interesting uh you can see

760
00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:06,640
the date

761
00:38:09,910 --> 00:38:07,520
uh

762
00:38:13,030 --> 00:38:09,920
up in the corner

763
00:38:16,069 --> 00:38:13,040
uh it's a 89

764
00:38:24,950 --> 00:38:19,270
oh okay yeah gotcha

765
00:38:28,630 --> 00:38:27,910
uh i stay there right that yeah

766
00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:28,640
that

767
00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:31,040
laws of a bridge

768
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:32,800
okay

769
00:38:36,870 --> 00:38:34,800
you know that's funny like some of these

770
00:38:39,430 --> 00:38:36,880
graphics look like

771
00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:39,440
straight out of blue book

772
00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:41,359
oh yeah you know how they did their

773
00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:45,760
reports yeah we we got a famous colonel

774
00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:48,079
who went to the u.s

775
00:39:06,390 --> 00:38:49,040
and

776
00:39:07,670 --> 00:39:06,400
he

777
00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:07,680
also

778
00:39:12,630 --> 00:39:09,119
talked about

779
00:39:15,349 --> 00:39:12,640
the phenomena with the other colonels in

780
00:39:16,710 --> 00:39:15,359
in the uf's air force

781
00:39:18,310 --> 00:39:16,720
ah

782
00:39:19,910 --> 00:39:18,320
interesting

783
00:39:21,510 --> 00:39:19,920
his name is

784
00:39:22,950 --> 00:39:21,520
uh

785
00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:22,960
h p

786
00:39:30,069 --> 00:39:26,800
p a christensen i believe

787
00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:35,270
i haven't heard that

788
00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:36,950
i turn on witness citizen and go

789
00:39:42,790 --> 00:39:38,800
straight into the fourth page of a case

790
00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:43,810
from denmark

791
00:39:49,829 --> 00:39:47,280
[Laughter]

792
00:39:50,790 --> 00:39:49,839
yeah that's how we do it here you know

793
00:39:52,550 --> 00:39:50,800
yeah

794
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:52,560
we're looking at it we're checking it

795
00:39:57,349 --> 00:39:54,160
all out

796
00:40:00,870 --> 00:39:57,359
but um but if if

797
00:40:01,750 --> 00:40:00,880
you you didn't know that uh uh maybe

798
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:01,760
other

799
00:40:06,870 --> 00:40:04,240
know in the chat but i

800
00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:06,880
i'm a former uh

801
00:40:13,109 --> 00:40:08,880
radar operator

802
00:40:16,150 --> 00:40:13,119
right yeah yes and and we we

803
00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:16,160
uh you you sent me some

804
00:40:22,069 --> 00:40:18,960
uh a sketch drawing from

805
00:40:26,309 --> 00:40:22,079
52 i believe uh yeah

806
00:40:28,630 --> 00:40:26,319
right yeah washington dc yes yeah

807
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:28,640
yeah that was uh pretty helpful

808
00:40:44,069 --> 00:40:31,920
and and the funny thing about it is that

809
00:40:49,430 --> 00:40:47,510
but what was weird about that was um

810
00:40:51,910 --> 00:40:49,440
the date on the radar thing was

811
00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:51,920
different you know than the sightings

812
00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:52,960
yeah

813
00:40:57,270 --> 00:40:54,720
and i wasn't able to figure that out

814
00:41:02,790 --> 00:41:00,870
it was put together with with those

815
00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:02,800
documents so it would lead you to

816
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:05,119
believe that it was a part of those

817
00:41:09,109 --> 00:41:06,400
sightings but

818
00:41:11,109 --> 00:41:09,119
yeah i don't know i actually did find

819
00:41:13,750 --> 00:41:11,119
something else too on what the

820
00:41:15,589 --> 00:41:13,760
washington dc sightings where they kind

821
00:41:18,870 --> 00:41:15,599
of um

822
00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:18,880
they had to pick a certain amount of

823
00:41:24,470 --> 00:41:21,040
you know the aerial phenomenon office or

824
00:41:25,589 --> 00:41:24,480
whatever of the air force had to pick

825
00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:25,599
four

826
00:41:29,829 --> 00:41:27,280
or five like

827
00:41:30,550 --> 00:41:29,839
best cases as they described

828
00:41:32,829 --> 00:41:30,560
for

829
00:41:36,069 --> 00:41:32,839
congressional folks

830
00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:36,079
and that was one of them

831
00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:40,550
so

832
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:42,640
you know you know the hard part for me

833
00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:44,240
is i'm

834
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:46,480
the more i do this the better i get at

835
00:41:49,829 --> 00:41:48,400
finding stuff

836
00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:49,839
i know i

837
00:41:54,390 --> 00:41:51,599
have been there

838
00:41:55,349 --> 00:41:54,400
then it's hard to keep track of it all

839
00:41:56,950 --> 00:41:55,359
it was

840
00:41:58,630 --> 00:41:56,960
about

841
00:41:59,750 --> 00:41:58,640
20 years ago

842
00:42:01,030 --> 00:41:59,760
um

843
00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:01,040
i i

844
00:42:07,030 --> 00:42:04,640
i could get on the internet and

845
00:42:08,820 --> 00:42:07,040
really looked up files

846
00:42:10,390 --> 00:42:08,830
many many uh

847
00:42:16,630 --> 00:42:10,400
[Music]

848
00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:17,910
uh ads

849
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:19,119
um

850
00:42:25,589 --> 00:42:22,560
when you go on google now

851
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:25,599
they have an uh a different kind of uh

852
00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:27,040
algorithm

853
00:42:32,069 --> 00:42:28,480
oh okay

854
00:42:34,309 --> 00:42:32,079
uh and i could find even more

855
00:42:35,510 --> 00:42:34,319
yeah years ago you know when they

856
00:42:37,349 --> 00:42:35,520
started

857
00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:37,359
oh wow and today

858
00:42:46,390 --> 00:42:41,680
and i i actually searched uh as you do

859
00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:46,400
uh ten years ago when where i

860
00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:49,680
did go into many

861
00:42:54,790 --> 00:42:52,800
servers where they had pdfs

862
00:42:58,630 --> 00:42:54,800
and confined

863
00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:58,640
a lot more than than today well

864
00:43:01,349 --> 00:42:59,520
because

865
00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:01,359
the the first

866
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:03,200
you know really neat thing i found was

867
00:43:09,190 --> 00:43:06,400
actually via google search

868
00:43:14,710 --> 00:43:10,829
like searching that looking at the

869
00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:14,720
images that popped up and then hitting

870
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:17,200
you know look at more images and then

871
00:43:21,030 --> 00:43:18,880
all of a sudden something looked like an

872
00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:21,040
interesting document and i click on it

873
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:22,240
boom

874
00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:23,760
i got all those

875
00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:26,560
air force uh osi files

876
00:43:30,790 --> 00:43:29,200
from clifford stone himself

877
00:43:32,950 --> 00:43:30,800
um

878
00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:32,960
so this is pretty interesting i wanted

879
00:43:37,910 --> 00:43:35,680
to bring this up have you heard of uh

880
00:43:39,270 --> 00:43:37,920
so this dr dugan guy

881
00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:39,280
right

882
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:42,000
past he passed away like maybe four

883
00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:43,440
years ago or so

884
00:43:48,950 --> 00:43:45,680
but um

885
00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:48,960
um the guy the main general that talked

886
00:43:53,109 --> 00:43:51,440
to tom de long that was uh kind of outed

887
00:43:54,069 --> 00:43:53,119
in those emails i forget what his name

888
00:43:55,589 --> 00:43:54,079
was now

889
00:43:57,109 --> 00:43:55,599
mccarthy

890
00:44:00,390 --> 00:43:57,119
yes

891
00:44:03,030 --> 00:44:00,400
mccaslin yeah so he left something

892
00:44:04,230 --> 00:44:03,040
um on his

893
00:44:05,990 --> 00:44:04,240
like uh

894
00:44:08,309 --> 00:44:06,000
like they had like a eulogy type of

895
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:08,319
thing or whatever and he said dr dugan

896
00:44:13,349 --> 00:44:11,040
was great we'll forever respect his

897
00:44:15,349 --> 00:44:13,359
you know blah blah on what he did for us

898
00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:15,359
and it's interesting because you go to

899
00:44:20,710 --> 00:44:17,680
this document

900
00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:20,720
and dr dugan is an unofficial

901
00:44:27,589 --> 00:44:24,720
uh in a private capacity in 1973 and

902
00:44:33,109 --> 00:44:27,599
earlier all the way back to 1966

903
00:44:36,790 --> 00:44:33,119
investigating ufos along with dr heineck

904
00:44:39,589 --> 00:44:36,800
and this is in australia

905
00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:39,599
so yeah you must have uh cold hard of

906
00:44:43,510 --> 00:44:41,440
this

907
00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:43,520
what's that

908
00:44:47,670 --> 00:44:45,760
you you must have uh

909
00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:47,680
this uh

910
00:44:52,870 --> 00:44:51,119
australian reporter cole hard on this

911
00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:52,880
case

912
00:44:56,790 --> 00:44:54,000
um

913
00:45:03,270 --> 00:44:58,870
i hope he looks at it

914
00:45:06,309 --> 00:45:03,280
but i thought this was very interesting

915
00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:08,550
you you can see here however dr duggan's

916
00:45:12,790 --> 00:45:10,480
interest is unofficial

917
00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:12,800
as far as cicero is concerned and this

918
00:45:18,390 --> 00:45:15,280
may cause embarrassment

919
00:45:21,030 --> 00:45:18,400
did you did you know uh when you uh

920
00:45:24,470 --> 00:45:21,040
search him um

921
00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:24,480
if if you can go back and and look at

922
00:45:27,829 --> 00:45:26,400
his page

923
00:45:29,430 --> 00:45:27,839
um

924
00:45:32,309 --> 00:45:29,440
yeah

925
00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:32,319
and then you can you can see what

926
00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:34,800
departments he have been in

927
00:45:37,990 --> 00:45:36,000
right

928
00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:38,000
all the way down

929
00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:40,160
and i i actually

930
00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:43,520
had a lot of those uh going through

931
00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:46,800
those with a lot of a lot of people

932
00:45:55,109 --> 00:45:51,200
uh 10 years ago and also my cards my

933
00:45:56,309 --> 00:45:55,119
castle and i can't rem no that's great

934
00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:56,319
but but

935
00:46:01,030 --> 00:45:57,599
he is

936
00:46:02,150 --> 00:46:01,040
foreign technology division you know

937
00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:02,160
right

938
00:46:06,710 --> 00:46:03,520
yeah wow

939
00:46:09,510 --> 00:46:06,720
but but uh have you have you ever talked

940
00:46:11,109 --> 00:46:09,520
to michael frapp

941
00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:11,119
michael who

942
00:46:15,430 --> 00:46:12,480
frank

943
00:46:16,870 --> 00:46:15,440
i don't think so you know who that guy

944
00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:16,880
is

945
00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:18,720
um i don't think so

946
00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:24,000
um he he has he's his historian on

947
00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:25,680
ufo sightings

948
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:26,880
okay

949
00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:30,960
uh he's going and illustrate all the

950
00:46:35,030 --> 00:46:32,880
major cases

951
00:46:36,069 --> 00:46:35,040
oh wow cool

952
00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:36,079
um

953
00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:39,280
and he he actually

954
00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:42,960
uh did go after

955
00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:46,079
black projects

956
00:46:48,390 --> 00:46:47,440
names

957
00:46:51,270 --> 00:46:48,400
and

958
00:46:53,589 --> 00:46:51,280
find a lot of stuff

959
00:46:56,790 --> 00:46:53,599
with those

960
00:46:58,309 --> 00:46:56,800
kind of project names you know

961
00:47:00,870 --> 00:46:58,319
but um

962
00:47:03,990 --> 00:47:00,880
then he

963
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:04,000
posted it them and

964
00:47:08,829 --> 00:47:06,960
i can't remember a week later they were

965
00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:08,839
all gone

966
00:47:13,190 --> 00:47:11,440
wow yeah michael shred

967
00:47:17,109 --> 00:47:13,200
yeah okay gotcha

968
00:47:31,430 --> 00:47:17,990
yeah

969
00:47:33,670 --> 00:47:31,440
am going to take off

970
00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:33,680
um for the day yep

971
00:47:37,190 --> 00:47:36,160
get some rest maybe eat some food

972
00:47:39,910 --> 00:47:37,200
who knows

973
00:47:40,430 --> 00:47:39,920
great great to speak to you sean again

974
00:47:41,829 --> 00:47:40,440
yeah

975
00:47:45,270 --> 00:47:41,839
[Music]

976
00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:45,280
and uh and thanks for having me

977
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:47,680
on the poster

978
00:47:52,549 --> 00:47:49,920
oh hell yeah

979
00:47:54,870 --> 00:47:52,559
you gotta put you on there

980
00:47:57,950 --> 00:47:54,880
why not right and

981
00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:57,960
i will just say go to my

982
00:48:01,589 --> 00:48:00,400
uapdb.com website

983
00:48:03,109 --> 00:48:01,599
and find

984
00:48:05,270 --> 00:48:03,119
more

985
00:48:07,349 --> 00:48:05,280
and awesome news that

986
00:48:08,710 --> 00:48:07,359
uap ufos are getting some coverage in

987
00:48:13,109 --> 00:48:08,720
denmark so

988
00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:13,119
yeah that's that yeah we have

989
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:14,800
none

990
00:48:19,430 --> 00:48:17,440
but we can't say that anymore but the

991
00:48:20,870 --> 00:48:19,440
pressure from the us

992
00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:20,880
and

993
00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:23,520
what's going on there will affect

994
00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:24,960
all of european

995
00:48:28,230 --> 00:48:26,240
[Music]

996
00:48:31,510 --> 00:48:28,240
parliaments i believe

997
00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:31,520
yeah and that's awesome

998
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:33,359
worldwide transparency because

999
00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:35,280
everybody's got reports

1000
00:48:38,150 --> 00:48:36,079
yeah

1001
00:48:41,829 --> 00:48:38,160
so and and even

1002
00:48:45,589 --> 00:48:41,839
if i can just state that uh i

1003
00:48:49,030 --> 00:48:45,599
i ask vinnie when he has louis as

1004
00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:49,040
alessandro on his show and

1005
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:50,160
when he

1006
00:48:55,990 --> 00:48:52,079
go to

1007
00:48:57,270 --> 00:48:56,000
scu to have a presentation from for some

1008
00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:57,280
years ago

1009
00:49:00,790 --> 00:48:58,800
and

1010
00:49:03,589 --> 00:49:00,800
he had

1011
00:49:04,950 --> 00:49:03,599
a danish and a swedish and some other

1012
00:49:07,829 --> 00:49:04,960
flags

1013
00:49:12,710 --> 00:49:07,839
and said they had um

1014
00:49:15,270 --> 00:49:12,720
a ufo office in in denmark and

1015
00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:15,280
i asked him again

1016
00:49:21,109 --> 00:49:16,400
and he said

1017
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:21,119
when he was at atip they had an office

1018
00:49:23,990 --> 00:49:22,079
there

1019
00:49:25,589 --> 00:49:24,000
in denver

1020
00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:25,599
and

1021
00:49:28,829 --> 00:49:27,040
um

1022
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:28,839
yeah

1023
00:49:34,790 --> 00:49:32,880
wow we don't know what they do or what

1024
00:49:37,910 --> 00:49:34,800
branch they're in

1025
00:49:40,790 --> 00:49:37,920
right because apparently um they all the

1026
00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:40,800
cases went to civilians yeah

1027
00:49:47,430 --> 00:49:42,720
exactly

1028
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:48,790
all right

1029
00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:51,760
adios amigo

1030
00:49:56,390 --> 00:49:53,760
but um yeah

1031
00:49:57,349 --> 00:49:56,400
i'll talk to you soon

1032
00:50:00,069 --> 00:49:57,359
bye

1033
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:04,069
um oh i saw that by the way um

1034
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:07,200
yes i think i'm gonna eat

1035
00:50:11,109 --> 00:50:09,280
maybe just a frozen pizza that i have at

1036
00:50:14,309 --> 00:50:11,119
home you know because i'm kind of tired

1037
00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:14,319
so i didn't get my nap today so

1038
00:50:19,270 --> 00:50:16,240
i think that's what i'm gonna do

1039
00:50:24,069 --> 00:50:22,549
have a great weekend like the video um

1040
00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:24,079
you know it helped me out if you gave a

1041
00:50:27,270 --> 00:50:26,400
bunch of money to me too like megan t

1042
00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:27,280
did

1043
00:50:31,589 --> 00:50:29,040
i would love money

1044
00:50:33,750 --> 00:50:31,599
i'm so money hungry

1045
00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:33,760
i would love to be like that one duck

1046
00:50:38,710 --> 00:50:36,000
cartoon that's just like

1047
00:50:42,390 --> 00:50:38,720
swimming in gold chips

1048
00:50:42,780 --> 00:50:42,400
forget what uh duck cartoon that was

1049
00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:42,790
um

1050
00:50:46,309 --> 00:50:44,640
[Music]

1051
00:50:48,549 --> 00:50:46,319
man i gotta figure out what that was but

1052
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:48,559
he was like a rich duck

1053
00:50:52,630 --> 00:50:50,160
and the beginning of the show he would

1054
00:50:55,190 --> 00:50:52,640
like dive into a big

1055
00:50:58,069 --> 00:50:55,200
hill of gold

1056
00:51:02,870 --> 00:51:00,630
dark wink duck no that's not what it was

1057
00:51:08,900 --> 00:51:02,880
i'll figure it out otherwise